can i write certificates?

**steven_191** · 25th April 2009, 03:35 PM

hello everyone, im Steven, this is my first post on here.

i finished my apprenticeship last year. i took the 2391 test and inspection but unfortunately failed the paper part.

but i have done inspection and testing as part of my apprenticeship so my question is what if any certificates and i entitled to write, and for that matter can i even do any testing?

i been told that undersupervision i can do any testing because im deemed competent, but can i work alone? i know how to inspect and test and have done quite a lot of it recently.

a friend of mine asked if i could do some work for him, but im not sure if i can write a certificate for the work ill be doing.

thanks in advanced

**Jimbo** · 25th April 2009, 07:52 PM

Yes you can write certificates from BS7671 (Regs) they have no copyright issues and will not object to you copying the test sheets, you can also obtain BS 7671 software to issue certs, what you cannot do is, lead the customer into believing you are a member of a body of which you are not ie Nic, etc and able to certificate on there forms. Regards Jimbo

**philosopheer** · 26th April 2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by steven_191

hello everyone, im Steven, this is my first post on here.

i finished my apprenticeship last year. i took the 2391 test and inspection but unfortunately failed the paper part.

but i have done inspection and testing as part of my apprenticeship so my question is what if any certificates and i entitled to write, and for that matter can i even do any testing?

i been told that undersupervision i can do any testing because im deemed competent, but can i work alone? i know how to inspect and test and have done quite a lot of it recently.

a friend of mine asked if i could do some work for him, but im not sure if i can write a certificate for the work ill be doing.

thanks in advanced

Some organisations would like you to think you cannot but you can.

**steven_191** · 26th April 2009, 11:44 PM

so i can use the standard form of certificates for both installation work, and testing? bearing in mind i havent actually got a pass for the 2391?

**Jimbo** · 30th April 2009, 09:06 PM

In a word yes, but remember you are signing that the installation is safe and if the **** hits the fan its likely its you they will come looking for. Regards Jimbo

**ringworm29** · 2nd May 2009, 07:34 PM

hi steve ,
my question is to jimbo about your question.

hi jimbo , if steve signs it off has safe and if he is not part p approved, does he still have to get building control to cetificate his work.

unsure , cheers ringworm29

**nicespark235** · 17th May 2009, 01:06 PM

Yes he would as he is not registered with any scheme.

**del** · 24th June 2009, 12:23 PM

hi have posted simular topic on here ( newbe) im keen to get the answers as I also want to install elects into a new annexe build ( for our own use) and although I know the latest reuirements and will do excellent job need to get it signed off.. simular situation thanks all ps sparky since 1970 only got the 16th edition. is it hassel getting building control to do test certs ??

**Greg** · 26th July 2009, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by ringworm29

hi steve ,
my question is to jimbo about your question.

hi jimbo , if steve signs it off has safe and if he is not part p approved, does he still have to get building control to cetificate his work.

Originally Posted by nicespark235

Yes he would as he is not registered with any scheme.

Which kind of defeats the object, if you want to sign off your work without the involvement of the local building authority then you would need to be registered. I have been advised that even the NIC have relaxed the need for 2391 on their competant person scheme as long as you can demonstrate on your site visit that you know your stuff.

**cj-sharpy** · 27th July 2009, 09:18 PM

I fthe company you work for is Part P registered you can test and certify under them as long as the gaffer deems you competant. So I'm sure for a small fee (a pint or a bacon butty is the norm) he would let you use of their certificates.