another cert question

**del** · 24th June 2009, 12:13 PM

Hi im Del and first post on here.. been sparky since 1970 and up to speed with 16th ed have not done the 17th but fully aware of the requirements for new installations
my question is im having an annexe built for me.. I want to wire it to keep costs down but not certain best route as far as getting it passed via the build control.. frustrating as I know I will do every thing to top notch standard..ideas ???. ( so called electricians have said get the forms and just fill them in as no one will ever know) I was hoping to do the work and then get inspection and test carried out but is it that simple if the person doing the test didnt do the work... too much red tape I feel now adays help please

**Greg** · 26th July 2009, 12:31 PM

Thats poor advise that could land you in big trouble, you will need an Electrical Installation Certificate issued by someone who is a member of an authorised body who in essence will sign your work off as his own as long as its upto scratch which it will be.

**Jimbo** · 27th July 2009, 11:42 PM

Its not just getting someone to certificate your work (and take full responsibility for it) its being able to notify. I get asked at least 3 times a week: I have had my house rewired can you come and certificate it? Reply is thus : didn't the electrician who did the job certificate it?. Reply: no but he was cheap. The moral here is yep your house is rewired but as its not been carried out by a competent person and notified it was just a waste of money. No one in there right mind is going to let someone take a rewire off them and then go round and certificate for them. As far as get the forms and no one will know, all competent persons are issued with a number which must be quoted when notifying. The HSE is now starting to actively chase people carrying out unregistered work. Insurance company are looking for every way to wriggle out of claims and what better for them than unregistered work? Yes its a mine field but what we have to remember Part P is a building reg its not going to go away and Del if you have been a Sparky since 1970 why not join a scheme? Red tape is what its all about now. Regards Jimbo

**bredwin** · 28th July 2009, 04:47 PM

This maybe a stupid question, but what do you mean by 'being able to notify'?

Also when these people ask you to certify their re-wires, are you not just tempted to quote them a ludicrous price just to inspect and test their house?

Another thing is that just because someone is not registered does not mean they are not competent, I'm competent enough and qualified to re-wire a house but do not have the registration. Personally I don't do any private jobs anymore as I feel it's too risky, I am considering registering (hence my first question) but obviously need to do enough private work to make paying £450 per year worthwhile.